तैर्मन्त्रयमाणो हि मन्त्रसिद्धिं गुप्तिं च लभते इति ॥ कZ_०१.१५.३१ ॥
tair mantrayamāṇo hi mantrasiddhiṃ guptiṃ ca labhate iti
Kerana dengan bermusyawarah dengan mereka, dia memperoleh kedua-duanya: kejayaan nasihat (keputusan yang berkesan) dan kerahsiaan—demikian dikatakan.
Mantrasiddhi (effective counsel leading to success) and gupti (secrecy).
That this is a cited opinion/position in the debate, which Kautilya may accept or reject next.